284 - (37). Is the incarnation of a spirit an absolute obstacle to his evocation?
"No; but it is necessary that the state of his body, at the moment of evocation, should be such as to allow his spirit to disengage itself immediately. An incarnated spirit comes all the more easily in proportion to the elevation of the world in which he is living, because the body is less material in the higher worlds."
38. Can we evoke the spirit of a person now living in our world?
"Yes; just as you can evoke a spirit incarnated in some other world. The spirit of a person living in your world can also, in his moments of liberty, render himself visible to you without evocation; that depends on the degree of his sympathy with the parties to whom he manifests himself." (See 116, Apparition of the man with the snuffbox)
39. In what state is a person's body when his spirit answers to an evocation?
"It is asleep or dozing; it is then that the spirit is freest."
- Could the body awake during the absence of the spirit?
"No; if something were about to waken the body, which is the spirit's home during his earthly life, he would be forced to return to it; if, at that moment, he were conversing with you, he would suddenly leave you, telling you, perhaps, why he did so."
40. How is the spirit, when absent from the body, informed of the necessity of returning to it?
"The spirit of a living body is never completely separated from the latter; however far off he may go, he is always attached to it by a fluidic thread, or link, which serves to recall him to his body when necessary; this thread, or link, is not broken until the moment of death."
Remark - This fluidic link has often been seen by clairvoyant mediums. It is a sort of phosphorescent trail between the body and the spirit; when the latter is away from the body, this trail seems to disappear in space. Spirits say it is by means of this trail that they distinguish those who are incarnated from those who are disincarnated.
41. What would happen if, while asleep, and in the absence of the spirit, the body received a mortal blow?
"The spirit would be informed of what was about to happen, and would re-enter the body, before death could occur."
- It is, then, impossible that the body should die during the absence of the spirit, and that the spirit, on his return, should find, so to say, the door of his fleshly tabernacle closed against him?
"Quite impossible; for it would be contrary to the law which regulates the union of soul and body."
- But suppose the blow should be struck suddenly and unexpectedly?
"The spirit would be warned of the impending blow before it could be struck."
Remark -The spirit of a person in the flesh, interrogated upon this point, replied: "If the body could die in the absence of the spirit, suicide would be too easy! "
42. Is the spirit of a person evoked during sleep as free to communicate as that of a person deceased?
"No; matter always exerts more or less influence on spirits who are incarnated."
Remark - A living person, evoked while asleep, and questioned on this subject, replied: 'I am still chained to the bullet that I drag after me."
- Would this absence of a spirit from his body prevent his coming if evoked?
"It might do so; for instance, if, at the moment of evocation, he were in some place where he wished to remain, the evocation would not bring him, especially if made by someone in whom he took no interest."
43. Is it absolutely impossible to evoke the spirit of a person who is awake?
"It is difficult to do so, but it is not absolutely impossible; for, if the evocation tells, the person evoked may fall asleep. But a spirit can only communicate, as a spirit, at times when his presence is not necessary to the intelligent activity of his body."
Remark - Experience shows us that an evocation, made while the person evoked is awake, may produce sleep, or, at least, a state of somnolence akin to sleep; but this effect can only be produced through a very energetic willing on the part of the evoker, combined with the influence of sympathy between the evoker and the evoked, as, otherwise, the evocation does not "tell" Even should the evocation produce somnolence, if the moment were unpropitious - as, for instance, if the person evoked did not wish to go to sleep - he would resist, or, if he succumbed, his spirit would be troubled, and would find it difficult to reply. The moment most favourable for the evocation of a person in the flesh is during his natural sleep; because his spirit, being then comparatively free, can come to the caller as easily as it can go elsewhere.
When the evocation is made with the consent of the person evoked, and he tries to go to sleep for this purpose, it may happen that the act of evocation troubles him and keeps him from sleeping; on every account, therefore, such evocations should only be made during the natural sleep of the person evoked.
44. When a person in the flesh is evoked while sleeping, has he, on waking, any consciousness of what has occurred to him?
"No; not in most cases. You are all of you evoked more often than you suppose; but it is usually your spirit only that is aware of the occurrence, which may, however, In some cases, leave on the mind a vague impression as of a dream."
- Who is likely to evoke us if we are only obscure persons?
"You may have been widely known in former existences, in this world, or in other worlds; you have many more relations and friends in this world, or in other worlds, than you know of in your waking state, and all these people may evoke you.
Suppose that your spirit, in some former existence, has animated the body of the father of somebody or other in this world or elsewhere, if that other person should evoke his father, it is your spirit that would be evoked, and that would answer the evocation."
45. When the spirit of a person in the flesh is evoked, does he reply as a spirit, or with the ideas of his waking state?
"That depends on his elevation; but, at all events, his judgement will be clearer, and less influenced by prejudices, than in his waking state, for, when answering an evocation, his state is analogous to that of lucid somnambulism; the two states, in fact, are almost the same."
46. If the spirit of a somnambulist be evoked while in the magnetic sleep, will he be more lucid than one who is not a somnambulist?
"He will undoubtedly answer with greater facility, because he is more disengaged from matter; everything depends on the degree of the spirit's independence of the body."
- Could the spirit of a somnambulist answer the evocation of a person at a distance, while answering another person verbally?
"The faculty of communicating simultaneously at two different points is the attribute only of spirits who have passed beyond the influence of matter."
47. Would it be possible to modify a person's waking ideas, by acting on his spirit during sleep?
"Yes, in some cases; the spirit, during sleep, is not so closely bound to matter as when awake, and is therefore more accessible to moral impressions; and these impressions may influence his judgement in the waking state. Unfortunately, however, it often happens that, on waking, the corporeal nature regains the ascendancy, and causes the man to forget the good resolutions that he may have taken, as a spirit, during the sleep of his body."
48. Is the spirit of a person in the flesh, when evoked, free to speak, or not to speak, as he chooses?
"He has his spirit faculties, and, consequently, his free will; and as he then has more perspicacity than in his waking state, he is even more circumspect than when awake."
49. Could we, by evoking an incarnate while he is asleep, constrain him to tell what, in his waking state, he desires to hide?
"I have told you that a spirit has his free will; but when his body is asleep, he attaches less importance to some things than he does when he is in his waking state, and his conscience may also assert itself more freely. On the other hand, if he does not choose to speak, a spirit can always rid himself of importunities by slipping away; for you cannot hold a spirit as you can hold a body."
50. Could not the spirit of a person in the flesh be constrained, by another spirit, to come and speak out, as is done in the case of wandering spirits?
"Among spirits, whether in the flesh or out of it, there exists no other supremacy than that which belongs to moral superiority and you may be very sure that no superior spirit would lend himself to any such cowardly piece of villany."
Remark - Such an abusive attempt would, indeed, be an evil action, but it could not attain the desired result, because it would be impossible to drag from the spirit any secret which he wished to keep to himself, unless, moved by a sense of justice, he should elect to avow what, under other circumstances, he would have kept secret.
A lady, known to us, resorted to this method in order to learn from one of her uncles whether the will of the latter was in her favour. Evoked by her during his sleep, and questioned by her as to whether lie had left his property to her, the spirit replied -
"Yes, my dear niece; and you will soon have proof of it. "This was the fact at that time; but, a few days afterwards, the uncle destroyed his will, made another of a different tenour, and was malicious enough to tell his niece that he had done so, although he did not know that he had been evoked by her. An instinctive feeling had urged him, no doubt, to execute a resolution taken by his spirit when the question about his will was put to him by his niece. It is a base and dastardly thing to ask a spirit, as a spirit, whether in or out of the flesh, what we would not venture to ask him as a man; and it is, moreover, a baseness which has not even the advantage of attaining the result it is intended to compass.
51. Can we evoke the spirit of an infant during the period of gestation?
"No; at that time the spirit is in a state of confusion too dense for consciousness."
Remark - Incarnation does not take place definitively until the moment when the infant breathes; but, from the instant of conception, the spirit designed to animate a given body is seized with a sort of confusion, which increases with the approach of birth and deprives him of self-consciousness, and, consequently, of the possibility of answering to any call. (See The Spirit's Book, N° 34; Return to corporeal life; Union of soul and body.)
52. Can a deceptive spirit take the place of the spirit of a person whom we evoke?
"Undoubtedly he can do so; and such substitutions are a very frequent occurrence, especially when the intention of the evoker is not a pure one. But the evocation of persons in the flesh is only interesting for purposes of psychological study, and should only be resorted to with a '"view to that end."
Remark - If the evocation of wandering spirits does not always tell (to make use of their own expression), such failure is still more frequent in the case of spirits who are reincarnated; and it is especially in the latter case that deceptive spirits take the place of those who have been called.
53. Does the evocation of a person in the flesh present any danger?
"It is not always quite safe, but that depends on the situation of the person evoked; if he is in bad health, his illness may be increased by it."
54. What are the cases in which the evocation of a person in the flesh is most unadvisable?
"You should never evoke infants, young children, those who are seriously ill, the infirm, or the aged; in short, evocation should never be attempted with any one whose bodily health is weak."
Remark - The sudden suspension of the intellectual faculties, while a person is awake, would also be a source of danger; especially, if at the moment of evocation, the person evoked were in some situation requiring all his presence of mind.
55. Does the body, during the evocation of a person in the flesh, experience any fatigue from the action of the spirit while absent from it? (The following answer to this question was given by a person who, while in this state, asserted that his body was getting tired.)
"My spirit is like a captive balloon, fastened to a post; my body is the post, and is shaken by the jerkings of the balloon."
56. Since the evocation of persons in the flesh may prove injurious when attempted without due precaution, might we not unwittingly do harm by evoking a spirit, who, without our being aware, of it, is reincarnated, and who may therefore not be in a favourable condition for replying to our evocation?
"No, the circumstances are not the same, and the spirit so evoked would not come unless he were in a condition to do so; and besides, have I not told you that you should always inquire of your spirit-guides, before making an evocation, whether it is advisable to do so or not?"
57. When we feel an irresistible desire to go to sleep at some unsuitable moment, may it not arise from our being evoked in some quarter?
"That may unquestionably be the case, but it is more frequently a purely physical effect; either the body wants rest, or the spirit wants liberty."
Remark - A lady of our acquaintance, a medium, had, one day, the idea of evoking the spirit of her grandchild, who was asleep in the same room. The identity was conclusively proved, both by the spirit's language and familiar expressions, and by his exact narration of various things that had happened at his school, when a circumstance occurred which still further confirmed it. The hand of the medium, who was writing under the dictation of the spirit of the child, suddenly stopped, in the middle of a sentence, without her being able to obtain anything further, and, at that moment, the boy, half awakened, moved several times in his bed a few moments afterwards, the boy having again dropped off to sleep, the lady's hand again wrote as before, continuing the sentence which had been interrupted by the partial awaking of the boy. The evocation of persons in the flesh, conducted under good conditions, affords incontestable evidence of the distinct action of the spirit and the body, and consequently of the existence of an intelligent principle independent of matter. (See, for remarkable examples of the evocation of persons in the flesh, the Revue Spirite of 1860, pages 11,81.)